Dear snipers

Get your cowardly asses out of the red line and help cap an objective, dropping half a guys shields while he is on the ass end of the map away from anything important isnt helping

Correction, a sniper that gets where they can get a kill and from max range even if in the redline is a real sniper. If you need to be closer to the action you are a poor shot.

So the problem would be too many snipers, not hitting their targets, not getting to where the targets are. Even a redline sniper is useful if it gives a good vantage point to hit targets and to observe enemy activity. I don't see how you having to be able to shoot a sniper with an assault rifle matters except to give you an easier kill.

And you want to run you own team over? Who's being useless now?
There are people trying to do their part and people who b*tch about others. Who's more useful?

Get a sniper rifle, counter snipe.

Lol, you missed my statement about that otherwise.

You are no good being another tryhard assault getting mowed down when you could be shooting more guys with a sniper rifle or at least forcing their movements ( and when you say "failed because they were completely outnumbered" then the kills apparently matter). I've been more useful as a sniper than being just another assault up against a group of reds. Too often I've been assaulting and had zero help when the team is mostly assaults. Useless is a relative term.

Hold objectives? It's when you aren't doing that that a sniper's job kicks in. Again, just another assault doesn't cut it.

I think it's funny though that the term coward would be applied to combat in a video game. Try doing or being in a position to do it in RL.

Correction, a sniper that gets where they can get a kill and from max range even if in the redline is a real sniper. If you need to be closer to the action you are a poor shot.

We aint jelly, we just only want sniper snipers.

Yeah yeah, everybody hates snipers.

I've got news for you.

We don't care.

Now, shut up and stand still for a moment.

Sniping is about finding the targets. If I can do that from the redline and get a big enough vantage point then it is legit. Stop measuring ******* d*cks, defining someone as a coward. Jeez, y'all have got a lot of growing up to do. Sounds like 16 year olds. You get the kills and/or stop the enemy from moving in or overcoming a position. Who gives a rat's ass where it happens? Lol.

The neckbeard wannabe macho man factor is strong in here.

Manus peak GÇö yes there are spots on the north and south sides that are prime spots. Yes they happen to be in the redline on the hills where you can see all points as well as be protected from the side you are not monitoring for counter snipers. I get my biggest kills on this one it's so small.

Line Harvest GÇö there are a couple of prime spots on the north side. Yes they are in the redline on the hills where you can take care of traffic around and between C and D. A couple of points for the south side that are just off the redline for B and A. Otherwise, if your team can actually hold there side of the map then the buildings do allow for protected spots to your flank.

Spine Cresent GÇö way up on the mountain ridges on the west off the redline. You can see all the points and when the reds light up at A they render. D and E is not directly exposed but you get good through and rear traffic at those buildings. You can also get ppl in their redlines. I even almost got a tanker up there just below me repping his tank. He jumped back in before i could get him.

Ashland GÇö the main places are in the redline because that's where the hills are. There is a good spot just off the redline on the east side that is perfect for the central area traffic.

Iron Delta GÇö C is a great wide area. Yes it is in the redline but then C is butt up against the redline. Also, you can get people on the top of the round building when it's there. On the other side you can defend D. If you defend A and B you might as well go tac rifle marksman for the urban inner outpost.

Skim junction is the biggest movement to different positions. I usually go dropship or tank for this.

The new maps absolutely do not allow for any sniping at the objective points. But you do what your role is which is to cut the cross traffic. I go dropship if the movement is slim.

An effective position doesn't mean you are closer. If you are dead due to assaults et al then you are more useless than a sniper who knows how to stay out of LOS while sniping.

A limited area with limited LOS at a time is better than a big area where you can see everything at once. However, as stated above there are some juicy yet exposed areas.

And yet those are great positions. I see targets, see the flow of battle, catch the cross traffic, see targets at mutiple points, most of the time protected on one or more sides with only the direction I'm targeting in view like a sniper is supposed to do. And, I get the kills and help the assaults do their job which is cap objectives.

This thread is a case of people not understanding the art and tactics of sniping, not appreciating it and/or just not respecting it and ultimately having a different methodology for applying it. Most people who run vanilla assault seem to think everyone needs to do that or it's no good.

You've got your positions and style; I've got mine. That's another whole discussion entirely between snipers.